4tek 4REVA Scratch Battle – Results!
Last night was a mean battle. The skill and talent really came out and everyone was on form. I don’t know everyones DJ Name so i’ll do my best to break it down completely.
Eliminations:
Lenski (AKL)
Manchoo (AKL)
Wil K (AKL)
D Spys (Rotorua/Welli)
Tricq (Chch)
D-Rail (Welli)
Seer-1 (Hastings)
Spell (Hamilton)
Joe Turksta (AKL)
Affiliate (Chch)
Kilograms (Welli)
Top 8:
Lenski
Manchoo
Wil K
D Spys
Tricq
D-Rail
Seer-1
Spell
First Round:
Manchoo vs. Lenski – Winner: Manchoo
Spell vs. Tricq – Winner: Spell
Wil K vs. D-Rail – Winner: D-Rail
Seer1 vs. D Spys – Winner: Seer-1
2nd Round:
Manchoo vs. Spell – Winner: Manchoo
D-Rail vs. Seer1 – Winner: Seer-1
Final:
Manchoo vs. Seer-1 – Winner: Seer-1
So Seer-1 beat Manchoo in the final taking home $500 in cash and the golden record. Lots of people have different opinons on who should have won that final round. I’m keen to see what everyone thought. Drop a comment on what you thought of the battle anyways.
Props to CPC for putting this battle on. It was the shit and I hope it becomes an annual event in Wellington each year. Don’t give up on it!!!!
Also.. Props to everyone who turned up to watch and props to the bros that didn’t make it to the top 8. It is what it is and theres always next time. I fall into this catagory harrrrdout 
Posted November 30th, 2008 by Joe Turksta
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November 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Congrats on all who entered! Good on Seer 1, when I read the line up I thought Manchoo will take it hands down, but this proves the scene is still alive and there is more talent lurking out there!
December 1st, 2008 at 1:24 am
yea…i tho Manchoo took it out… but Seer-1 changed his scratch hand for dat tie-breaker round which prb earn him some extra points
December 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Well done to the organisers of the event, what a great way to remember someone dear to you all. So now for MY opinion:
I am DJ Manchoo’s partner and I was at the battle, and I wanna let ya all know who I am before you read my opinion. Yes, you can call me biased but then that would be calling the judges tone deaf and blind – which is NOT what I am doing. And if you were at the battle you would agree with me.
WOW….WHAT A CROC OF SHIT THAT WAS – JUDGING DJ MANCHOO SECOND???? DJ Manchoo lost the scratch battle????? – PLEASE. DJ Manchoo won that battle and everyone there knew it!! Many people have said the same thing to him. Funny enough one of the Welly boys mentioned that one of the judges awarded points to Seer-1 cos he ATTEMPTED (yes, thats right) to show some skill…WHAT THE FARK????? Shit if thats the case then all of the DJ’s would have scored high for all attempts made and they all deserve a prize.
Are you serious that the judges had to go to a tie-breaker round because they couldn’t decide who won the rounds between DJ Manchoo and Seer-1? Were we at different battles???
I noticed that the SAME beat and sample WAS NOT given to BOTH competing DJ’s. How the hell are the judges supposed to compare the DJ’s skill (or lack of skill) if they have different beats and samples? Someone please answer that for me.
Before we decided to head to Welly, I said to Mike that yeah I thought he would do well – shit I even thought he would possibly even win. However, I also thought to myself that it would not be up to his skill to win him this battle, and it would be in the hands of the judges. I always knew that Mike wouldn’t walk away the winner – tooo much politics surrounding it all. Talk about De-ja-vu!! But I did think that whatever opinions people had of Mike, that their honest opinion of how he performed on the night would prevail. Fark – I was wrong and I should have known better.
Seer-1 was already bowing down to D-Rail during their final round, and you wanna tell me that Seer-1 then went on to beat DJ Manchoo???
This is in no way a dig at Seer-1.
I know Mike really well and I know that if he felt that he lost fairly – then he would be the first person to say so. It really is a pity that people felt like they had to vote against Mike in spite of who actually won. I would also be the first to let Mike know that he did really well but if he lost fairly – then so be it.
We all have footage of the battles between DJ Manchoo and Seer-1 so maybe we should put it up on here so that YOU can be the judge as to really WON.
Did you all hear the crowd go silent when Seer-1 was annonced as the winner? Fark, we could all hear a pin drop. Its because everyone was in complete DISBELIEF. I actually thought that they had called Seer-1 as the runner up – and NOT the winner.
Turksta I would prefer that you leave my opinion up on your blog so that everyone – and I dont care who reads it – can see what I think.
What a croc of shit that was because I know that you ALL know who really won that battle. At least have the balls to say it. And if ya wanna have something to say about my opinion then go for it – don’t hassle Mike because of my opinion. Or have me up about it when ya see me – I’m open to a discussion on the matter.
Thanks
Jud
December 1st, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Hey Jud. No worries about your comment, your opinion is your opinion, and I only moderate spam generally.
Thanks for stopping by
December 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm
I’m going say that I am surprised of the result of the final.
However to be fair, I am going to try and get some video content off some of the bros so everyone can have an opinion of the final battle and discussion can be said. That way, I think opinion can be fully fair and discussed.
What y’all reckon?
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 am
whoa…like to see this battle.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 am
DJ battles are always flawed cause of wack judging….look at the world DMC’s- a perfect example. There’s always guys in the final 12 who make you go ‘what- how the fuck did they make it’…..it kind of comes with the territory.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I’m definately keen to see this footage from the battle, sounds very controversial.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Yeah bro… keen to see tha footage. Controversial alright. Who is Seer-1?
I guess for me, Manchoo would have the upper hand (Ex DMC Champ), and i’ve seen him jam recently, still has it!
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
wotup turk. im hijackin your blog
battle footage
http://spellsays.blogspot.com/
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Yeah Id like to see the footage on the whole evening. Wouldve been mean to be there. i will say that I agree that Manchoo has been hard done by in the past and what Korrect has to say about the DMCs is SO TRUE!!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 am
check out the battles between Manchoo And Seer 1 and you be the Judge
Manchoo VS Seerr 1 Final Battles 3 Rounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shhs8EWfbGU
Manchoo VS Seer 1 Tie Breaker Battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXE12Ei4Zmg
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 am
Shot! Beef brings out some dope shit!!!!
I feel a “State of Origin” battle brewing…haha this can be settled easy enough… Take mine and 4teks example.
Love this shit!!!!!
4TEK4EVA!!!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I’m gutted I missed this show.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Wasn’t there, would be keen to see the video footage.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Thanks for linking through the final Spell
Appreciate it bo!
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Videos are around on the net, but not good quality
Judges were myself, Kerb & Alphabet
I can only speak for myself but i call it as i see it, no politics, no spite and no favoritism.
Joe if you can get footage of the whole event that would be dope, cause some of the battles were a lot closer than they seemed.
I have asked a lot people that were there, what they though and it has been very mixed but a reoccurring comment was some djs were very repetitive doing the same thing every round.
Anyway the video don’t lie so if anybody got some clear footage post it
Also real impressed with good up & coming talent and the strong number of entries
Raw
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Lenski (AKL)
Manchoo (AKL)
Wil K (AKL)
D Spys (Rotorua/Welli)
Tricq (Chch)
D-Rail (Welli)
Seer-1 (Hastings)
Spell (Hamilton)
Joe Turksta (AKL)
Affiliate (Chch)
Killagrams (Welli)
Dont forget
Gargamel (welli)
Ruse (welli)
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
ok ok so i had a read now…
“DJ battles are always flawed cause of wack judging”
you cant call RAW, ALPHABETHEAD or KERB wack at all!
The rules-
Head to Head battle rounds:
The beats will change for each round. All beats will be chosen at random. You will be given a sample at random.
that is all… haha
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Thanks Kim for putting the other 2 DJ’s into my list. Apologies to Ruse and Gargamel for missing you guys out.
As to Raw. Sup bro- I will see what I can get in Quality video. Wil K has offered me his footage from camera to DVD. I will try and rip it at Decent Quality and throw it on Youtube or something similar if I can.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
it didnt help that he same tempo was used for the beats pretty much throughout the night only 2 beats above 110 were played so DJs couldnt really do alot of patterns and different structures to the beats i just felt like the beats could have varied more therefore DJs could express there cuts a little more better thats probably why the same patterns were coming out because the tempo never changed,Thats something to think about
December 4th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Hmm, a possible rematch in the future?
December 4th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Every round should be treated independently so it shouldn’t matter if DJ’s use their trump card every round does it? Quarters, semis and finals are all different and should be treated as so. If judges were listening to the DJ throughout the whole night and judging based on that, then the winner would be the most consistent throughout. In the final, the winner choked his first set didn’t he?
Props to all the DJ’s that entered. At the end of the day, hip-hop is the winner here!
December 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
“Every round should be treated independently”
Yes i agree
“it shouldn’t matter if DJ’s use their trump card every round”
Yes & No
If you were to compare it to a B-boy Battle, it would be like one guy comes out with some dope footwork and then the guy he is battling comes out & does a power move like headspin or flares and doesn’t really show any other style, the power move would most probably win, but if the same guy pulls out the same moves ever round by the time it gets to the final the moves are not as impressive.
For the record i judged the Final
Round # 1 = Manchoo
Round # 2 = Seer 1
Round # 3 = Manchoo
Tie Breaker = Manchoo
Alphabet & Kerb are well respected Dj’s and have nothing to gain by making Manchoo lose so I am putting this up to give you a different angle to look at cos they might have been looking for different things than i was looking for.
I watched the battle between Spell & Manchoo again on on Spell’s blog and its a lot close than i first thought, watching that you could easily say Spell was more funky and demonstrated more technique on both record & fader but on the night i went for Manchoo.
Again Im just putting this out there as none of the other judges have replied, all depends what your looking for style & finesse or speed & technique.
No matter what Manchoo is a true Champion and deserves all the accolades he achieved in his DJing and I’m glade he had the courage to come down and enter cos there are a lot of other Djs, younger and older that should be entering if they want to keep the scene elevating and alive.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Nice Comments RAW it was A Very Contraversal Battle no Doubt about that and DAM this battle has bought every DJ out of the Wood works to comment hahaha in some respects i think it has revitalised the scene
What Ever Happened Happened yo and theres not much that can be done now personally i think everyone has sorta gone off track as to what the real purpose of all this has been about its not about Welly its Not about Auckland its just about keeping the Turntable Scene Alive going Forward but keeping things fair and true
I hope this Battle gets everyone Fired up for another Round of battles sometime in the Near Future it has definitley created a Fire Storm hahahahaha
DJ Manchoo
Shouts To RAW yo TOP DOGG Cuzzy
December 4th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
@steps: ‘you cant call RAW, ALPHABETHEAD or KERB wack at all!’
When I said that djing comps are ‘always flawed cause of wack judging,’ I wasn’t calling Raw, Alphabethead or Kerb ‘wack’- when i wrote it I had no idea who the judges were, and being that I wasn’t there the comment was aimed at Dj battles IN GENERAL and a reply to Jud’s comment, in which he gave a pretty firm opinion on the judges, decsion… note: ‘dj battles will always be flawed,’ not, ‘the 4-tek dj was flawed by wack judging.’
I was simply saying bad calls will ALWAYS be made in competitions.
On an extra note, I think some of the ILLEST djs in the world have made bad judging calls – so many factors can come into it – and they only get one chance to listen – its not like they can watch a replay and really cement their opinions like the person watching the video.
It is the nature of subjective ‘music’ competitions, and everyone (who has battled long enough) has had decsions go against them that could’ve gone the other way.
Korrect
December 5th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
What up djz ,My crew was the one that was organising the 4tek 4 eva tribute battle shout out to all the djz that enterd the sad thing some of these katz have gone off track on what it was really about yes to remember my boy 4tek but also to elavate the scene me and my crew have enterd battles and at times we thought weve won or should of gone threw oh well thats just the way it is, dont cry and bitch about it get back to the lab and practice…….
now for your comments on how the battle went in terms of beats and tempo organisation (be easy it was our first gig) fair enough wel take your feedback and improve for next year ,cpc plan to make it bigga and better,and for the judgin,, me device ea kut had nufin to do wit the over all decision
but we hand pick the judges.this guys are legendz …they jus call on how they see as they have explain.. we all need to stop wit this auckland welli bullshit i got mad love for all djz shout out to dj manchoo, wil k, lenski, trick,affilate for making the effort…..4tek 4eva….cpc….dj 4tek rip we still miss you uso….shot outs to my crew dvice,ea kut,d rail,d spys,….for all u haterz eat a fat one ……1 soundwave
December 8th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
MEAN MEAN CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT BATTLE 4 THE LOVE OF TURNTABLES!
December 12th, 2008 at 1:45 am
such a mean idea… cant wait for the next one…. make love not war… props to c.p.c for putting on the battle…. ill try and be ready for the next one hahaha
August 25th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
wellwell well well i cant wait til the nxt battle i think for my self i went into it blind it was gd to stand up and have a jam i think nxt time i will be a bit mre prepared like cueing my fuking records hahahaha all you klever cunts use wait im getting it sortid hahahaha look forward to faceing one off u guys nxt battle cpc rip 4tek